LibDems: Is it time to call it a day?
A sad cartoon some might say, sickening to others. If the truth be told it strikes a raw nerve. Ming's leadership is becoming a liability to the Liberal Democrat party. It's no-longer a laughing matter. The party is in trouble there can be no doubt about that. A lot of the dead wood needs to be cleared out. Some of the heavyweights at HQ are trying to put a gloss on the current situation and are rather foolishly ignoring the electoral meltdown. Talk about spin, how dare Mark Pack write such garbage. An absolute load of cobblers. A complete misrepresentation of the truth. What is it all for. Is somebody trying to suggest people are idiots and will believe such crap? Better to say nothing than to write something so stupid.
In Wales, Peter Black AM has been castigated for speaking his mind. The next thing you will hear is a suggestion that he is bringing the party into disrepute or he will be stigmatised by the heavyweights in London. They can't actully shut him up. As a member of the LibDem Welsh party there's not much they can really do to him except make verbal noise. No right thinking person in Wales would blame Peter after the disastrous results. Quite sure some of the LibDems in Wales will come out and support him.
In Scotland the LibDems have now turned down the prospect of a coalition with the SNP to form the next government. Scottish Lib Dem leader Nicol Stephen has indicated they refuse to consider the Nationalists' demand for a referendum on independence.
Why are the LibDems taking this undemocratic stance. From all indications, the vast majority of the Scottish electorate including Scottish party members want a referendum. I personally don't like the idea of an independent Scotland but I'm not Scottish. It's the right of the Scottish people to determine the country's destiny not a few individuals.
I suspect the real reason behind the LibDems stance is more about stopping the Nationalist's leader Alex Salmond becoming Scotland's First Minister than any referendum.
Simon Jenkins article in today's Guardian TATTERS the party suggesting it's time to disband. He writes,
What are Liberal Democrats for? They are the flotsam of 20th-century politics drifting on into the 21st, coagulated from ancient clubs, cabals, splits and defections from other parties. Not since the 19th century have they cohered round any great interest. They represent no mass movement, no breaking of the political mould. Ask a Liberal Democrat what he or she is for and you get only a susurration of platitudes.
LibDems won't find it very complimentary but they will have to admit there are elements of truth in his words. Bit harsh to suggest the party disbands but the way things are heading it's going to be reduced to a minority party if care is not taken. Come the GE the party will lose many of the seats they were so proud of gaining last time around.
Labels: Election 07, Ming, Party HQ, Slavedriver
6 Comments:
At May 10, 2007 8:33 AM,
Anonymous said…
Is the problem just ming, or is it deadwood in the HQ?
At May 10, 2007 12:39 PM,
Anonymous said…
Suzanne,
You are all over the place with this posting. You praise Peter Black for speaking out in Wales. Peter suggests, rightly in my view that the Lib Dems shouldn’t do a deal with a Party that got the most seats in the recent Assembly elections for reasons of principle. In Scotland Nicol Stephens refuses to a deal on a matter of principle - the Lib Dems don't believe in Scotland becoming an independent nation. Surely you should applaud Nicol for standing up to his (and the Party's) principles?
And if Simon Jenkins doesn’t see the need for a Party that believes in personal freedom, civil liberties; that doesn’t believe in going to war on a lie and tells the truth when it comes to public services, then that’s his loss.
There is still room for third force in British politics - where for instance would all the Councillors (more than the Labour Party have)go?
I think you have a beef with certain people at HQ and this is clouding your judgement. Time to revise your post?
At May 11, 2007 6:52 AM,
Susanne said…
Anonymous May 10, 2007 12:39
All I was trying to say that the party which was on the up and up has gone into election meltdown.
The knock on effect is being seen all over. It is sad really.
Don't really have a beef with anybody at HQ but lets face it there are several idiots working there who are an absolute digrace to the party and should have been sacked a long time ago.
At May 13, 2007 6:47 AM,
Praguetory said…
I don't have strong feelings on your HQ in general but I agree that Mark Pack has been writing patronising tripe.
I like your point that if you're in favour of a United Kingdom why would you fight a referendum on the matter? It only bolsters those in favour of independence.
At May 14, 2007 12:15 AM,
Joan said…
What a refreshing style of writing you have. Always interesting and often thought provoking
Ever thought of writing a book?
At May 14, 2007 1:00 PM,
Tristan said…
Election meltdown?
Oh how the past is forgotten...
For real electoral meltdown look to the Liberals in the 1930s.
The LibDem vote share was around the same level its been for a while. The losses and gains were very localised - if Ming is to blame for the losses, then surely it is all down to him that Hull was gained... how do you square that?
Ming is not the problem. If there is a problem its a failure to articulate a liberal vision across the whole party.
Focuses have become populist pavement politics not promoters of liberalism and community politics.
Ming has started reforming the party, and good luck to him. Those crowing for his head seem to be those who wanted Simon Hughes to be leader and who are sore about the party moving slightly away from the politics of envy towards a more liberal sustainable policy with the abandonment of the 50p tax rate.
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